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Gooby



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:40 am    Post subject: ArPen and Mutilate Rogue Question Reply with quote

So with Icecrown Citadel out I found myself looking at all the new gear and frowning at all the ArPen. A lot of the gear are upgrades but at the same time I'm trading off crit or haste for ArPen. Is it worth it? I've heard ArPen is useless for a Mutilate spec but at the same time I've heard otherwise.

Can anyone offer some sort of clarification? Thanks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mutilate builds don't benefit from ArP as much as combat builds because IP+DP+Envenom usually amounts to 50% of total damage. So ArP buffs our DPS, but not as much as the other stats (agi/AP/haste/hit...) because it only affects half our damage. So yes, it is possible that a piece of gear sporting a crapload of ArP will come as an upgrade, but it certainly won't be as good an upgrade as an equivalent ArP-less piece of gear, because the points budgeted to ArP would have served us better allocated to another stat.

Now, the tricky question is when a piece with a lot of ArP on it is an upgrade, because other classes (or combat rogues) benefit much more from ArP. The best thing you can do is grab a spreadsheet, figure out which pieces are really large upgrades, and which pieces would serve your raid better if they went to another player (for example, I handed over Taldaram's soft slippers to a hunter because they were only a 2.8dps increase to me).


So take a bit of time, check out the gear available to you (half the T.10 has ArP on it, half doesn't, and the ICC10/25 gear is pretty well spread out too, so you should be able to set up an ArP-less gearset), and use a spreadsheet to determine what you need to change quickest.




P.S.: whatever you do, don't buy the T.10 gloves/legs. Toravon should be here any week now, so don't waste emblems on pieces you could get for free in a PUG.
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Gooby



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help!

Guess I'll be busy gathering frost emblems as getting an upgrade for one type of stat decreases the other too much. So I'll have to wait till I can get two upgrades to balance it out. Thanks again.
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